I quite like the site Modern Mormon Men. I've read some inspiring posts and some thought provoking posts and some funny posts. But I have to say, I've read a number of disturbing posts, too.
I don't call it wrong. The site is meant to have contriubtors on various levels of spirituatlity and activity in the church and with a broad array of backgrounds and opinions. But it's hard for me to read sometimes. I just went back to see if one contributor had responded to my late-coming comment on his post. He hadn't but a fellow commenter had. However, instead of clearing things up for me, it made things harder for me to understand.
The original post is entitled On Reluctant Patriarchy where "Abraham" tells of his journey from thinking he understood the scriptures and knew all the answers, to the moment of his enlightenment, which leads him down a path that makes him happy but turns his wife into a self-repressing sexist that he wishes he could liberate. At least that's the general idea.
My original comment went like this:
"In regards to the women and the priesthood and/or more "power" within the
church, I am always very curious how more liberal people view this. Is
it something that God is just behind the times on, or is it something
that he is anxiously pestering the prophet to change, but the prophet is
too conservative to listen or does God just want us to forget
revelation and take a vote a la the Nicean Council (but, again, the
prophet is unwilling to relinquish his power)? How does that work, the
whole, "'The church'is wrong on this major doctrinal issue" thing?"
Followed by this:
"(That's a real question, not just a sass. I do respect other's
opinions, and I just want to understand the thinking behind this
particular type of opinion.)"
The response I read today goes like this:
I think the church has been wrong before. Blacks and the
priesthood and polygamy are what I think of. Blacks couldn't have the
priesthood until 1978 because the church was "behind on the times." As
for polygamy, the church had to give it up so it could become a state. I
don't think God would command women to love live a life of jealousy and
lonliness in polygamous marriages. At least, not the God I know. He(or
she) loves women too you know."
I am absolutely sure that the god that you know (espcially if
it's a woman!) did NOT command women to live the law of polygamy.
Also, the God I know did not command women to live a life of jealousy and lonliness. Because, WHOA.
it sounds like your answer to my question is that "the church" is wrong
on this one, yet again. I guess my question in WHERE IS GOD in all
this? And if your god is a woman, and you believe she is the god of the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints then she must be very, very
disappointed in the direction things have been going. And also, sorely
disappointed that Joseph Smith saw her and then told everyone she was a
man and made everyone call her Father for all these years.
sorry, this is just so sad to me. YOUR FATHER LOVES YOU. Find out
whether this is His church and whether or not He leads it. And stop
calling him a woman until you see him yourself. False doctrine of the
most damaging kind."
Reading over that again, I can see that it isn't as loving as I think I meant it. I'm just sad for that modern "Mormon" man.
I kind of feel like the term "Modern"these days is too often synonymous with "dysfunctional" or "confused".
I don't know. I guess the obvious answer for me is that this is a person sliding down the chute of apostacy, and there is no way that I can understand where he is coming from. But I just wish he could have helped me to understand some of the people I know who also hold what I would call "modern" views on some church doctrines or policy. I really want to understand those things better, even if I don't agree with the views.
I am a conservative and I believe that the church is actually lead by a real-life prophet who actually knows what God wants. But I still wish I could better understand the thinking behind those who don't exactly agree with me. Chances are, though, that I will never feel like I get a satisfactory answer. I hope it's not just because I am too proud or self-righteous.